*countable infinities only

phantomjinx p.g.richardson at phantomjinx.co.uk
Sat Jun 2 08:46:34 UTC 2012

Michael scherer <misc at zarb.org> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 02:10:38AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > Documenting the procedure may be viable after all. Kevin, could you start
> > writing such guides on Fedora wiki?
> I cannot start documenting this before the first "Secure"-Boot-enabled 
> firmware actually ships.

Sure you can, just send a email to OEMs to have access to engineering samples.

You can also start to organize the effort to review UEFI interface, by creating
a "UEFI documenting SIG", and let all the people who want to document as a alternative
to paying 99$ to Verisign take care of the logistics.
Michael Scherer
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devel at lists.fedoraproject.org

While this reply is informative, it tends to imply that KK should do this without any support from those that disagree with his position.

Having watched this thread over the last 24 hours I would like to understand where we are going with it. There are different positions with increasingly shrill talking at and talking past replies. 

The media has already posted articles on this as "fedora selling out to Microsoft". This cannot be good long term for the reputation of the project.

A lot of work has been put into this by MG and his article seemed to imply almost a despairing resignation about the decision (if not the case then I misread it -sorry). Based on the comments of this thread can a working group or sig be set up to build on MG and Co's work to find the most workable solution that preserves the reputation of the project. Otherwise I fear the distro will gain zero new users but worse lose the ones it already has!

Happy to help but new to the inner workings of the project so please bear that in mind when replying.

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