*countable infinities only

Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at
Sat Jun 2 14:57:20 UTC 2012

Peter Jones wrote:
> But I also think it's important for our distro to work out of the box on
> new computers without having to do that. If we don't have that, people
> will simply walk away.

And I don't think having to disable "Secure" Boot in the firmware is a 
hurdle which will make our users "simply walk away". I didn't "simply walk 
away" either back in the day where RHL wouldn't boot without disabling the 
"Plug and Play operating system" option in the BIOS. I found it perfectly 
normal that the firmware settings need to be adjusted based on the operating 
system(s) one wants to use. (Window$ worked just fine with the changed 
option, just as it reportedly will with "Secure" Boot disabled, see Matthew 
Garrett's posts about that subject.)

>> In that case, your plan relying on M$'s key might not be of any more help
>> for Apple machines than mine.
> Yes, that was my point.

Then why did you bring up Apple machines in the first place? They'll be 
screwed exactly the same way in both plans, so how are they relevant to the 
discussion at hand?

        Kevin Kofler

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