*countable infinities only

Matthew Garrett mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org
Sat Jun 2 21:57:21 UTC 2012


On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 05:14:12PM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> When it comes down to it, your "drawing the line" argument just
> doesn't make sense.  There is always injustice in the world.  If you
> want to be pedantic, anyone who ever seeks a more lawful or more
> ethical path is simply "drawing a line", because there is always some
> more fundamental injustice they've left unsolved for the moment.

There is always injustice. You're arguing that one level of injustice is 
acceptable and that another isn't, and you're justifying your 
distinction because you think the benefits of providing that information 
are greater than the costs of the loss of freedom. But there's no 
absolute rational measure of that, in the same way that there's no way 
to rationally say that the loss of freedom in terms of users not being 
able to produce their own signed bootloader or kernel for free is more 
or less significant than the benefit of having an operating system that 
users can install without firmware reconfiguration.

You're fine with one level of injustice. I'm fine with another level of 
injustice. Both compromise the freedoms that Fedora currently gives you.

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Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org


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