Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

Gerry Reno greno at verizon.net
Fri Jun 8 13:25:12 UTC 2012


On 06/08/2012 09:20 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net> wrote:
>> On 06/08/2012 09:00 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> On 06/08/2012 08:07 AM, Mario Torre wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> that would not allow custom kernel and such.  Don't support the locked
>>>>>> down platform; the answer to "Fedora on ARM" is "don't buy a Win8 ARM
>>>>>> system and expect to run Fedora".
>>>>> One should be very, very careful with sentences like this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> With more and more machines turning to ARM, simply dismiss it as a
>>>>> "don't buy a Win8 ARM" *may* possibly work right now, but it will turn
>>>>> against us in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't need to be an Oracle to see where all of this is going.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Mario
>>>>>
>>>> And I expect this idea of preventing other OS's from being installed on Win8 ARM hardware will not fly in the EU.  It's
>>>> anti-competitive.
>>> Doubt that as they have near zero market power in that segment right
>>> now. One of the leaders in that space is selling locked down devices
>>> and nobody seems to care.
>>>
>>>> In fact, the whole concept of preventing dual-booting,
>>> Nothing is preventing dual booting.
>>>
>>>> and requiring x86 hardware to come with Secure Boot enabled by
>>>> default probably won't fly either.
>>> Adding a security feature does "fly" just fine.
>>>
>>>> That too is anti-competitive.
>>> Not really no.
>> Oh please.   It's disrupting the entire x86 ecosystem.
>>
>> It's destroying the existing freedoms that users of other operating systems currently enjoy on x86 hardware.
>>
>> It's impacting  business models of companies that rely on open-source operating systems that run on x86 hardware.
> It's not doing any of that because you can disable it in the BIOS on
> x86. The whole purpose of this is to allow for a more secure OS and
> for something that works out of the box.
>
> Peter


It does all that on x86 exactly because it is enabled by default.

And on Win8 ARM you cannot disable.

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