*countable infinities only

[Jay Sulzberger]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Matthew Garrett <mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org> wrote:

> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:14:04AM -0400, Seth Johnson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> > > So you want Fedora to boot on all hardware sold?
> > 
> > I want Red Hat, Fedora, and the free software community to come to
> > terms with what they must do in the context created by this new
> > technology.  That does not mean boot on all hardware sold.
> 
> Could you please give a concrete description of what you want because I 
> have absolutely no idea what you're talking about at this point.
> 
> -- 
> Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org

Matthew this is near to the heart of our disagreement.  That you
cannot see the main issue, and its scale, makes this
conversation, at certain junctures of argument, difficult.

I am attempting to write something that will make the main issue
clear.

But here are two headers of my argument: If we do not defend the
ground on which free software lives and grows, we will shortly
have no free software.  Part of the ground is that we need ask no
permission of Microsoft, nor anybody else, to convenienetly use
any services provided by the hardware, services which under your
proposed plan will only be conveniently available to Microsoft.

oo--JS.