Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

drago01 drago01 at
Tue Jun 19 15:24:09 UTC 2012

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at> wrote:
> Am 19.06.2012 06:45, schrieb Adam Williamson:
>> On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 16:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> if things are working fine they do not need to be reinvented
>>> and developed forever - the problem i see the last years is
>>> that way to often are wroking things replaced because people
>>> can not life with the fact that things sometimes are finished
>>> and good as they are
>> One trigger for the current proposal was the discovery, quite late in
>> F17 cycle, that if you reboot while PK is automatically installing
>> security updates, you can entirely screw your system.
>> We shipped F16 with PackageKit set up, by default, to silently
>> automatically install security updates
> Ah so you made a BIG MISTAKE as decision and now try
> to fix it in all sort of ways?
> who do developers think they are installing SILENT
> system-upgrades as default? you must not touch the
> setup of a enduser without a question before

[citation needed]

> so do not fix the rsult, fix the problem and give
> users back the control of their system

Here is a scientific study that refutes your claims:

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