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jays at panix.com
Wed Jun 20 01:53:32 UTC 2012
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 17:49 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
> Henrik, I will respond to your claims, if you will answer me one
> question first:
> As you know, for over a decade Microsoft included in every EULA
> for its home computer OSes, a "Refund Clause". The clause
> stated that if the buyer of the computer never booted the
> already installed Microsoft OS, that the buyer would get a
> refund for the unused Microsoft OS. For all that time Microsoft
> refused to give a refund when the claim was made. Indeed a few
> people got refunds, but in most cases, people who complied with
> the terms of the Refund Clause did not get a refund, due to
> Microsoft's direct refusal.
> Do you condone, or consider as negligible, this long continued
> abuse by Microsoft?
> Please stop bringing this up. It has nothing to do with the current
> situation. I cannot see any relevance at all in any reply Henrik might
> give to your question. It sounds more like you're just taking it upon
> yourself to decide whether you consider people to be more sympathetic to
> Microsoft than you would like.
> If you have a reply to Henrik's points that you think it would benefit
> everyone to see, then post it. If you don't, don't. It seems
> presumptuous to demand his position on a different issue before you
> continue the conversation.
> Adam Williamson
Thanks, Adam, I will attempt to avoid engaging Gerald Henriksen
further on this list regarding this topic.
ad your claim that the EULA fraud is unrelated to Microsoft's
abuse of the UEFI: Of course, the EULA fraud and the UEFI fraud
of "SecureBoot" (when it is Microsoft's kernel that is booted)
are part of the same campaign to end free software.
I will also not engage you further in this topic, beyond, I hope,
posting a general summary of my positions on this nexus of
Thanks, Adam, for posting and expressing your position so
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