*countable infinities only

Seth Johnson seth.p.johnson at gmail.com
Wed Jun 20 17:29:48 UTC 2012

Proceed to the next paragraph then.  ;-)


On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:19:22PM -0400, Seth Johnson wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:04 AM, nomnex <nomnex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Things have changed. That's a good news (for once). Thanks for the
>> > update.
>> Bravo, so apparently there is a leader on this, a free software UEFI
>> on its own trustworthy hardware, that hopefully will tell the truth to
>> the user about security for the owner of the device, and make
>> installing free operating systems non-scary.
> To the best of my knowledge, their UEFI implementation isn't free
> software.
> --
> Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org

> > However, more need to follow in the same market (and in providing
> > infrastructure for boxes over which owners have root control) so
> > System76 does not become a target.  Then big shots won't be able to
> > turn a practice of holding root on their devices and granting signing
> > services to their hardware, into a bogus norm either of a kind that
> > says you must have a "license to compute," or of a kind that says
> > copyright means you can't parse and process published information,
> > that turns it into a prior restraint.
> >
> > You might have to pay extra at first, but this will make it apparent
> > to the world at large that this is the way things should be, rather
> > than either of those bogus norms.  Then we will have won the entire
> > information freedom battle, for us and our grandchildren.
> >
> > No need for a shim.  Use your own chain of trust.  No implication that
> > anybody must be *forced* to provide devices without Secure Boot turned
> > on.  The Secure Boot technology is a useful facility.
> >
> > You need to come to terms with what this new technology means for
> > freedom.  That does not mean boot on all hardware sold.  It does mean
> > make sure free software has and supports hardware with UEFIs that
> > cater to freedom, and that gives you control over boxes you own.
> >
> >
> > Seth

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