F17-alpha: UI unusable

[Gerry Reno]

On 03/16/2012 02:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 14:31 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
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>> On 03/15/2012 10:46 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
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>>> On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
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>>>> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
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>>>>> Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graphics is Geforce FX 5600
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>>>> Ah. Then that'll be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 .
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>>> Looks like it.
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>>> My screen issues are a little bit different but I think it's the same
>>> underlying problem:  driver issues.
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>> I just saw comment 47 in the bug.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the part about workaround with blacklisting.
>>
>> At no time do I have a working Terminal after reboot.  And what exactly
>> ends up being blacklisted?  I thought only drivers got blacklisted.  How
>> do you blacklist a card?   Does someone have an example?
>>     
> That's more a discussion for how we as the Fedora (and upstream GNOME)
> devs can fix the problem than how you as a user can fix it.
>
> The 'blacklist' we're talking about is GNOME's blacklist of cards that
> have 3D-accelerated drivers that seem to satisfy all the Shell
> requirements, but are in fact known to be incapable of satisfactorily
> rendering Shell. It's located
> at /usr/share/gnome-session/hardware-compatibility (in F17, anyway, I
> think it may have been different in F16). It blacklists based on the
> Mesa renderer string; the level of granularity it's capable of depends
> on how each Mesa driver decides to write its renderer string. For the
> main drivers (Intel, Radeon, Nouveau) it's possible to achieve pretty
> much GPU-level granularity.
>   

Adam, thanks for that clarification.

Also, can you boil this down a little for those of us with nVidia FX
NV3/NV4 graphics?

What can we expect for F17 in the way of supporting our nvidia graphics
cards?

Just some type of non-accelerated solution?

Or will there be a driver written that will properly support these
nVidia cards?


And I went looking into nVidia non-free driver but it appears there is a
problem with glibc conflict that prevents use of these drivers.  Any
comment on that situation?