ARM as a primary architecture

[Chris Murphy]

On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

> Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> 
>> On 03/21/2012 07:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> We have seen what happened when the EU took Greece's word on the promise
>>> that they'd eventually meet the Maastricht criteria. Let's not do the
>>> same mistake in Fedora!
>> 
>> What?
> 
> The Maastricht criteria are ....
[SNIP]

Pretty sure "What?" is code for "What?! What?! What?! No, just please stop!" 

For me it's code for "WTF is wrong with you?"

If you really thought the question was serious, you should have just supplied a lmgtfy.com link. Like this:

http://bit.ly/GFJqwV


On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> 
> Consumer desktops and notebooks. The things we normally call "computers". 
> Those have always been and should remain our primary target.

You are invited to wake up, stand aside, or get run over. Your "computers" are about to become typewriters. It will not be a decade longer.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/03/canalys-more-smartphones-than-pcs-shipped-in-2011/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fengadget+%28Engadget%29

> Apple's PPC machines were computers. Apple's ARM machines are not. One big 
> reason being that Apple is doing everything they can to prevent you from 
> installing a non-Apple operating system (such as Fedora) on them.

Using your logic, NASA's computers to send man to the moon weren't computers because they were a closed platform. I think we can all think of computers that could only run one operating system and no other in the past and present and future. And maybe I have a belligerent, and misinformed, house plant that will agree with your logic. Nope, never mind, they all disagree.

> It will be time to consider ARM for primary architecture status when it will 
> be a serious contender in the computer (as defined previously) market.

Hmm more smartphones than PC's, but it's not to be taken serious because of emotion based arguments and wishful thinking, and iceberg ahead type rationalizations.

Most consumers already consider the frigging phones more important, and use them more than a desktop or laptop computer. What is very soon to be niche is apparently your market that depend on merely high(er) performance computing, not mobility. You are completely discounting size, in favor of speed. And the market resoundingly is saying speed matters, but not as much as size.

You have fun rearranging the deck chairs while all of this transpires. Take a moment to consider how you'll benefit from others' preparations while your contribution will have been a lot of mostly useless whinging. At least try to make it more entertaining.


Chris Murphy