Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

Jan Kratochvil jan.kratochvil at
Mon May 7 17:50:56 UTC 2012

On Mon, 07 May 2012 18:10:17 +0200, Colin Walters wrote:
> My experience is otherwise; just look at how the kernel works in
> practice.  People often post stack traces to the list, and it's
> certainly not uncommon for problems to be fixed just based on this data.

Linux kernel is not generalizable for all packages, as I already wrote.

> but it's important to at least consider that your experience isn't
> necessarily representative of everyone.

I agree, therefore I hope FESCo will consider this feature objectively.

> When was the last time you had
> to diagnose a crash in gnome-shell with with our 100+ DSOs loaded?

firefox, *office, from several times a month to several times a year.
3.4G  /usr/lib/debug/

> There's a world of difference between "no stack trace" and "basic stack
> trace".

I repeat "no stack trace" should never happen and I believe it does not
happen.  At least it never happens for me.  I never prefer "no stack trace" to
anything.  If "no stack trace" ever happens it should be bugreported and ABRT
Retrace Server should be fixed.  It is there for proper backtraces.


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