default media size [Was: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo]

Gerry Reno greno at
Wed May 9 20:40:37 UTC 2012

If you watch, you can get DVD burners for about $15 USD.


Or used for about $5-$10 at any flea market.

On 05/09/2012 04:33 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik at> wrote:
>>> I know I've said this before, but: we should break the CD size
>>> barrier
>>> precisely so people can't burn things to CDs.  If you must burn to
>>> optical media, do yourself a favor and burn a DVD, the reduced seek
>>> time
>>> is entirely worth it.
>> I'd like to break CD limit too but we should not forgot there are users
>> for which CD is top technology from dreams and we have a lot of these
>> users among some countries...
> Where are the numbers to back this nonsense up?
> A DVD burner costs ~12 € ... and any computer that old isn't really
> that capable of running  fedora reasonably anyway.
>> For me personally CD is history, even
>> DVD, same 1 GB flash drive. We can afford it. But some people can't
>> and are our users thanks to the ability to get a cheap OS, that can
>> run on cheap HW and is still modern.
> See above.
>> The question is - how many people will be affected? Or should we
>> provide some fallback option - stripped down CD media size image? And
>> make the bigger one primary one?
> Well anyone can create a specialized spin for ancient hardware, but we
> should not restrict ourselves because of ancient hardware.

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