Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 11/07/2012 09:49 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 6.11.2012 16:04, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
>> On 11/06/2012 02:24 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>> Dne 6.11.2012 14:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov napsal(a):
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Vít Ondruch" <vondruch at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:56:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process
>>>>>
>>>>> So give me the permission [1] as well as the others who requested it
>>>>> before me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently the current owner doesn't care. You can compare the
>>>>> version
>>>>> history in koji [2] and [3] and if he doesn't care about one package,
>>>>> it
>>>>> is reasonable to doubt that the other packages will be in better
>>>>> state.
>>>> The problem here is that pkgdb requests are not auto approved after
>>>> some timeout period if the maintainer hasn't reacted.
>>>
>>> That would be sweet if it would be auto approved.
>>
>> Do you want a backdoor permitting all script kidz and overzealous, but
>> unexperienced newcomers to automatically take over packages?
>
> Come on, there are the same alarmist who think that Wikipedia will be
> hijacked and destroyed but have it happened any time?

Well, you might not be aware about it, but at least de.wikipedia.org 
does have similiar problems as we are discussing here.

> You are still maintainer, you are still owner and you are notified by
> email about every change in your package, so you'll be able to catch
> such activity pretty soon and act accordingly.

You get notified when the damage is done, e.g. when your spec file has 
been modified to your dissatisfaction and when the package already has 
entered rawhide.

All that's left to you unless these changes immediately break something, 
is to either silently swallow these changes or to revert them sometime 
later.

>> I usually either missed or forgot about the request or deliberately do
>> not yet want to approve.
>> That said, what I feel is missing in Fedora's pkgdb web-forms is an
>> option to "leave a comment to applicant" and an "some automated
>> reminder mechanisms" to remind "approvers" about pending requests.
>
> There is bugzilla, but it is definitely not the most flexible tool on
> the world.
Wrt. bugzilla, similar considerations apply: BZ-mails are sent out once 
and therefore are easy to forget/miss.


Ralf