Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 7.11.2012 10:21, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
> On 11/07/2012 09:49 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>> Dne 6.11.2012 16:04, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
>>> On 11/06/2012 02:24 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>>> Dne 6.11.2012 14:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov napsal(a):
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Vít Ondruch" <vondruch at redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:56:18 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So give me the permission [1] as well as the others who requested it
>>>>>> before me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently the current owner doesn't care. You can compare the
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> history in koji [2] and [3] and if he doesn't care about one 
>>>>>> package,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is reasonable to doubt that the other packages will be in better
>>>>>> state.
>>>>> The problem here is that pkgdb requests are not auto approved after
>>>>> some timeout period if the maintainer hasn't reacted.
>>>>
>>>> That would be sweet if it would be auto approved.
>>>
>>> Do you want a backdoor permitting all script kidz and overzealous, but
>>> unexperienced newcomers to automatically take over packages?
>>
>> Come on, there are the same alarmist who think that Wikipedia will be
>> hijacked and destroyed but have it happened any time?
>
> Well, you might not be aware about it, but at least de.wikipedia.org 
> does have similiar problems as we are discussing here.
>
>> You are still maintainer, you are still owner and you are notified by
>> email about every change in your package, so you'll be able to catch
>> such activity pretty soon and act accordingly.
>
> You get notified when the damage is done

Definitely, we are not in age of Minority Report yet, but even Pre-crime 
had its issues.

> , e.g. when your spec file has been modified to your dissatisfaction 
> and when the package already has entered rawhide.
>
> All that's left to you unless these changes immediately break 
> something, is to either silently swallow these changes or to revert 
> them sometime later.
>
>>> I usually either missed or forgot about the request or deliberately do
>>> not yet want to approve.
>>> That said, what I feel is missing in Fedora's pkgdb web-forms is an
>>> option to "leave a comment to applicant" and an "some automated
>>> reminder mechanisms" to remind "approvers" about pending requests.
>>
>> There is bugzilla, but it is definitely not the most flexible tool on
>> the world.
> Wrt. bugzilla, similar considerations apply: BZ-mails are sent out 
> once and therefore are easy to forget/miss.
>
>
> Ralf
>