Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

[Jesse Keating]

On 11/09/2012 09:35 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:13:32AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>
>> As far as Anaconda reverted in the future, I'm confused as to
>> when/where this became a requirement.
>>
> I think he's saying this because:
>
> 1) Features have a section for contingency plans.
> 2) In this particular case, we're slipping schedule because the NewUI
>     feature has a point where there stopped being a contingency plan.  We
>     passed that point before being aware of all of these issues that need to
>     be fixed in order to release Fedora.
>
> Being stricter about having viable contingency plans for features like
> this (ones that require coordination and can potentially block us if they
> aren't done/done correctly) is one possible way to address this type of
> situation in the future.
>
> Others are to alter the "time-based" release philosophy for certain
> features (We are going to have Feature X in Fedora 19.  If it isn't ready,
> we're going to slip the release date until it is done.)  To only let in
> a feature with no contingency plan only when it is code complete and can be
> evaluated outside of the Fedora tree first (anaconda devs state that they do
> not actually have the manpower to implement this style of solution).
>
> -Toshio
>
> - Note: I considered adding "have a longer release cycle" to the list of
>    alternatives but it's not clear that we wouldn't still get into this
>    situation (FESCo/releng/QA finding out at beta freeze that Feature X lacks
>    certain capabilities that are considered essential while the team
>    responsible for the feature had considered that it was something that
>    could safely be put off until the next release.  Being unable to revert
>    the feature at that point and so having to code the missing capabilities
>    on a rushed schedule at that point.)
>
>
>

In that context the plan would have had to be do all the "bring the code 
base forward into the next Fedora environment" work twice.

-- 
Jesse Keating
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