Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

[Matej Cepl]

On 2012-11-09, 17:15 GMT, Peter Jones wrote:
> The installer's memory footprint is largely bound by the size of the
> package set. So, for example, a yum "upgrade" will take more ram -
> because there are effectively twice as many packages involved.

I see that. Couldn’t be there a way how to somehow overcome this 
problem? Just a bit of brainstorming, don’t shoot me too much for being 
silly.

a) it could be that anaconda could just provide some kind of profiles 
   instead of exact selection of individual packages and the lists of 
   required packages for such profiles could be then precompiled in 
   advance and provided on the installation medium (and for kickstart 
   you could precompile it on a separate machine)?
b) installation could be done just from a limited set of packages 
   (something similar to what we used to have in Fedora Core, for 
   example) and the final installation of packages would be done 
   post-installation from the full set?
   
   We do that effectively with LiveCD installations anyway, don’t we?  
   Well, at least mostly ... certainly people can download additional 
   packages from Internet. Do users do that or do they typically install 
   just what’s on CD/USB?
   
   Do people typically do detailed selection of packages (including 
   obscure ones) in anaconda, or do they do (what I do, so I am biased) 
   detailed final selection of packages on the already installed 
   system?

> Actually, yeah, when you question our competence and the utility of 
> what we're doing, that is a bit offensive.

Did I say a word about your competence? I really didn’t mean to do that.  
For one, I am quite sure that you are way better programmers than I am, 
so I have not much to say about anybody’s competence.

I just wondered (and I still wonder a little, see above) about the 
necessity of using 2-4 times more RAM for what me (yes, that could be 
part of the problem, I don’t need/use most of the advanced/enterprise 
functionality in anaconda) seems like doing exactly the same as before.