[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

[Adam Williamson]

On 2012-11-11 0:53, Panu Matilainen wrote:

> Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly
> going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the
> feature.
>
> For starters it would help if the DVD didn't contain piles of
> obsoleted, conflicting and in some cases (at least samba), duplicate
> versions of packages:
>
> [root at turre rpm]# ./rpm -Uvh --test --root /home/test/ --nosignature
> ~pmatilai/mft/f18-dvd-all.mft

This is a bad test and is not intended to be possible. There are 
various reasons why such packages end up on the images. Some are bugs, 
but some are not.

> warning: package grub-1:0.97-91.fc18.x86_64 was already added,
> replacing with grub2-1:2.00-12.fc18.x86_64

This was the case at least for a long time because we used grub on some 
platforms and grub2 on others. I'm not sure if we're still using grub 
for anything on F18, but we may be. I'm on my laptop where I don't have 
an anaconda checkout handy to check.

I don't have specific knowledge of the others, but some are obvious - 
there's a couple of packages which conflict explicitly, which is fine. 
You're not supposed to be able to install all of the DVD at once, but 
different bits in different situations.

The other classic case is that when a dependency of a package in the 
set of packages to be included in an image is satisfied by more than one 
other package, pungi pulls *all* the satisfying packages into the 
compose, not just one. This seems odd at first glance but not at second 
thought: it's possible for yum to make a guess at which one should be 
pulled in on a specific system - I think the rule it uses is 'causes the 
least amount of extra other dependencies' - but pungi can't do that, 
because it doesn't know what your eventual installed system is going to 
contain! If A requires foo, which is provided by GNOME-B and KDE-C, then 
pungi needs to include both on the DVD if it's including A, because on a 
GNOME install you'll probably wind up with the dependency fulfilled by 
GNOME-B, but on a KDE install you'll probably want to have it fulfilled 
by KDE-C. If we only pulled in GNOME-B to the DVD, a KDE install might 
look odd. (Just a theoretical example, but you get the point).

> What's the script/tool used to compose the images these days?

pungi, but please consider the quirks of what it's doing before 
concluding that it's broken.

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