remove polkit from core?

Richard W.M. Jones rjones at redhat.com
Thu Nov 15 09:43:41 UTC 2012


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 07:34:22PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/14/2012 07:33 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> >>On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chris Adams <cmadams at hiwaay.net> wrote:
> >>>Great - let's take something that people are using, remove that
> >>>functionality, and not announce it!
> >>>
> >>>This is not cool; it represents one of my biggest frustrations with a
> >>>bunch of the "new and improved" ways of doing things.  You track down
> >>>how to do something, it works for a few releases, and then it doesn't
> >>>anymore with no notice.
> >>I don't mind this much in isolation—  and to some extent its
> >>unavoidable if there is to be progress.
> >>
> >>I also have the experience and impression that Fedora often dismisses
> >>use cases in the 'long tail' as things that "power users" can get by
> >>twiddling some opaque config file or registry entry or hacking some
> >>bit of code— this happens more often the closer you get to the
> >>desktop, but believe its a culture which permeates the project more
> >>generally than that.  In isolation this too would be occasionally
> >>frustrating but finite in baddness.
> >>
> >>The combination of the two— that anything non-stock is subject to
> >>constant and often undocumented breakage _and_ that many non
> >>nearly-universal use cases are too non-mainstream to consider
> >>supportable stock features really diminishes the value I receive from
> >>using a distribution at all.
> >I was trying yesterday to formulate a question for the people running
> >for FESCo along these lines; also what they thought about:
> >
> >https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4772133
> >
> >However I wasn't able to formulate a snappy and non-carping question
> >in time for the deadline.
> >
> >Still, I do believe it's something that FESCo (those elected and those
> >standing for election) ought to address.
> 
> Why are other OS and upstream decision/discussion int their regard
> fesco problem?
> 
> Should not their focus be first and foremost on our own distribution
> and our own OS?

No.  I think it's important to behave well with the larger free
software community, and that includes other Linux distros and *BSD.



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