Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:16 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:06 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >> >> > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move
> >> >> > Go/No-Go to Wednesday because of limited time for testing, let me
> >> >> > know in case of (strong) objections.
> >> >>
> >> >> I really think having this meeting during the second largest US holiday
> >> >> is a very poor idea, especially since almost everybody working on
> >> >> anything we're likely to decide no-go for is in the US, as are many of
> >> >> the people whose views will be needed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also note that even if they can show up /sometime on Thanksgiving day/,
> >> >> which is unlikely enough to begin with, many if not most families
> >> >> celebrate with a mid-afternoon meal.  That's right where this meeting is
> >> >> scheduled for.
> >> >
> >> > I was one who slightly favoured Thursday. As Jaroslav said, the
> >> > reasoning is that this week the extra day could be *really important*,
> >> > with the timing of the fedup work. We are aiming to build RC1 today;
> >> > realistically speaking the chances that fedup works perfectly first time
> >> > are not high, so I was figuring on needing at least an RC2. Given that,
> >> > Wednesday seemed over-optimistic to do the meeting. I think it's
> >> > understood that we won't make a controversial Go call on Thursday; it'll
> >> > be either a clear Go, otherwise slip.
> >>
> >> What about Friday?
> >
> > I think we agreed previously that Thursday was as late as we could go
> > while giving time for staging and so on. QA could do go/no-go 10 minutes
> > before release, but other groups need more time, so it's up to them to
> > decide how far we can push it.
> 
> Does one day really make that much of a difference? Lets just slip one
> day for the beta (release on Wednesday instead of Tuesday) then.

Well, we already 'pushed it' one day to Thursday permanently for this
cycle - it used to be Wednesday. Friday gives only about a business day
and a half, plus the weekend, for whatever has to happen between
sign-off and release.

The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips...
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Adam Williamson
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