Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

drago01 drago01 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 7 17:55:43 UTC 2012


On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:51 PM, tim.lauridsen at gmail.com
<tim.lauridsen at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been discussed
>> several times, last time a few month ago.
>> I read an article about a successful Google Summer of Code project [1]
>> whose goal was to make Software Center a distribution independent
>> program using PackageKit.
>> Matthias even made an Ubuntu-independent infrastructure for AppStream
>> (additional data about packages/apps).
>> I wonder if there are still any efforts to get it to Fedora and what it
>> would require from our infrastructure.
>>
>> If I understand it correctly, there are currently three options:
>> 1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias
>> 2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from the
>> beginning
>> 3) Apper already supports AppStream [2]
>>
>> I'm asking because I hear from many (not only) beginners that they would
>> appreciate something like Ubuntu Software Center in Fedora. I guess it's
>> one of the main reasons why many users rather go for Ubuntu than Fedora.
>>
>> Jiri
>>
>> [1] http://blog.tenstral.net/2012/08/gsoc-appstream-final-report.html
>> [2] http://blog.tenstral.net/2012/08/appstream-for-apper.html
>>
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> The ultimate software center is a web application, like Google playstore.

The google play store is not only a website.

> All the rating and commenting and other info, need to be centrally
> maintained and it is not a good idea to try to distribute this kind of
> metadata.

Why?

> There shall just be a local installer to install the packages triggered by
> the web app.

We already have this.

> Another thing is what the users of Fedora and most other linux'es is not my
> old mother and most of these users, don't care about a big fancy software
> shop.

Maybe maybe not. The point is that a fancy software shop would result
into this "old mother" type of user consider to use fedora.
A user ultimately don't care about packages but about applications.
Other distritors are moving in this direction while we fall behind.
We should lead here like we do in other areas.

> So nobody is going to do this great amount of work it takes to make a great
> webstore, Ubuntu need it for the same ways as Apple, they want to earn some
> money.

Earning money is not the point, having a good user experience is.

> It is an illusion that if we just have a fancy webstore, every body will
> start using Fedora IMHO.

Nobody said that.

> It will be nice if more people uses Fedora, but it not the main target, the
> greatness of Fedora is not measured but how many user it have, compared to
> other Linuxes or other os'es.

Well without users (and growth) it will become irrelevant and thus it
will become harder to achieve anything else.

As for people working on this Richard tried and got blocked by the
infrastructure people. (don't know the details though).


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