Any progress in Software Center in Fedora effort?

Jiri Eischmann eischmann at redhat.com
Mon Oct 8 08:19:32 UTC 2012


tim.lauridsen at gmail.com píše v Ne 07. 10. 2012 v 18:51 +0200:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>         Hi,
>         the possibility of Software Center in Fedora has already been
>         discussed
>         several times, last time a few month ago.
>         I read an article about a successful Google Summer of Code
>         project [1]
>         whose goal was to make Software Center a distribution
>         independent
>         program using PackageKit.
>         Matthias even made an Ubuntu-independent infrastructure for
>         AppStream
>         (additional data about packages/apps).
>         I wonder if there are still any efforts to get it to Fedora
>         and what it
>         would require from our infrastructure.
>         
>         If I understand it correctly, there are currently three
>         options:
>         1) Software Center based on PackageKit by Matthias
>         2) Light Software Center - a new app based on PackageKit from
>         the
>         beginning
>         3) Apper already supports AppStream [2]
>         
>         I'm asking because I hear from many (not only) beginners that
>         they would
>         appreciate something like Ubuntu Software Center in Fedora. I
>         guess it's
>         one of the main reasons why many users rather go for Ubuntu
>         than Fedora.
>         
>         Jiri
>         
>         [1]
>         http://blog.tenstral.net/2012/08/gsoc-appstream-final-report.html
>         [2] http://blog.tenstral.net/2012/08/appstream-for-apper.html
>         
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> 
> 
> The ultimate software center is a web application, like Google
> playstore.
> 
> 
> All the rating and commenting and other info, need to be centrally
> maintained and it is not a good idea to try to distribute this kind of
> metadata.
> There shall just be a local installer to install the packages
> triggered by the web app.
> Another thing is what the users of Fedora and most other linux'es is
> not my old mother and most of these users, don't care about a big
> fancy software shop.

I strongly disagree. Believe me, as a community manager in Red Hat I
communicate with community members and normal users on daily basis. And
the question "When is Fedora going to have something like Software
Center" is one of the most frequent ones.
And I also disagree it's about our mums and dads. We went to a local
university last week to introduce Fedora to new computer science
students. Those are users we're highly interested in. But for most of
them, it's the first contact with Linux and questions and opinions like
"Where can I search only for app" or "Looking for apps among packages is
not very convenient" were very frequent.

> So nobody is going to do this great amount of work it takes to make a
> great webstore, Ubuntu need it for the same ways as Apple, they want
> to earn some money.)

As someone already wrote, this is not about money, this is about user
experience. Software Center only with free software would be a big
improvement over what we have now.

> It is an illusion that if we just have a fancy webstore, every body
> will start using Fedora IMHO.

Nobody simplifies it like this. Software Center is just one of pieces in
the puzzle.

> It will be nice if more people uses Fedora, but it not the main
> target, the greatness of Fedora is not measured but how many user it
> have, compared to other Linuxes or other os'es.

Yeah, the number of users might not be the main goal for Fedora, but
without users, we won't achieve our actual goals. Less users leads in
long term to less contributors, for example.

Jiri




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