replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

Matthew Miller mattdm at
Tue Oct 9 15:00:31 UTC 2012

On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:45:24AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > c) it auto-pages if run on a tty
> Hmmm. That's not necessarily what people are expecting, but okay.

To expand on this: there is a general expectation that non-interactive
console tools will return control to the user immediately. Auto-paging is a
different user-experience that doesn't necessarily dovetail with the Linux
lineage. UI and UX aren't _just_ for GUI programs, after all. If we want to
sell journalctl (and systemd in general) as a step forward for sysadmins, we
need to take the sysadmin user commmunity's UI expectations seriously.

Compared to the other things I mentioned this is less important (because
hey, sysadmins can learn new ways!), but I wanted to elaborate on where this
is coming from.

Matthew Miller  ☁☁☁  Fedora Cloud Architect  ☁☁☁  <mattdm at>

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