replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

Simo Sorce simo at
Tue Oct 9 15:58:43 UTC 2012

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:38 +0000, "J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson" wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 03:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 05:24:42PM +0200, Richard Marko wrote:
> >>> Compared to the other things I mentioned this is less important (because
> >>> hey, sysadmins can learn new ways!), but I wanted to elaborate on where this
> >>> is coming from.
> >> +1. For example swapping action and name parameters for systemctl
> >> compared to service calls is just annoying.
> > Yes. Again, you're not the first person I've heard this from. Likewise,
> > needing to fill out the .service extension. Both make a certain logical
> > sense from a design point of view, but they're not putting the user first.
> Probably changing this is not doable since you have multiple types of 
> units that can have the same name foo.path foo.service 
> foo.timer etc.
> As I have set from the get go it is best for administrator and users 
> alike to forget all they know of the legacy sysv init stuff and approach 
> systemd with a fresh mind and as a *new* technology

Oh come on, you just use a default when it is missing (.service) and
require it fully formed for the others.


Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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