replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

Stephen John Smoogen smooge at
Tue Oct 9 21:41:51 UTC 2012

On 9 October 2012 15:24, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at> wrote:
> On Tue, 09.10.12 16:53, Simo Sorce (simo at wrote:

> If you want audit-like semantics with crashing if we cannot write, then
> use something else, not the journal. The journal is supposed to be
> robust and do the right thing so that you can leave it unnatteneded and
> whatever happens it didn't spill the disk or become unavailable. It's
> supposed to be "zero maintainance".

So in those cases rsyslog would be required, but would be seen as a
post-install step.

EG what you are looking at is building a GNOME-OS and for those sorts
of tablets, etc the journal is right for that. The other cases like at
a Hospital, trading firm or various .gov.XX then having rsyslog
installed with audit post would be the way to get the needed features.

Stephen J Smoogen.
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