replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

Tomas Mraz tmraz at
Wed Oct 10 19:10:56 UTC 2012

On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: 
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:

> > case, then even if I require rsyslog for a package, that won't work
> > unless rsyslog is started and running. So, sysadmin's experience
> > changes:
> > Was: Install logwatch.
> > Becomes: Install logwatch. Make sure you install and enable rsyslog.
> > I just want to make sure people are aware of the change.
> Well, we've got: and
> it seems like we could probably come up with a preset selection for
> non-desktop system use. I'd say "server-presets", except it goes beyond
> server, of course. But yeah, we'd need to make that easy -- a list of "now
Then call it unix-presets perhaps?

> you get to jump through these hoops because we've made things better!" won't
> make anyone happy with us.

We are just dropping another part of the UNIX API - this time the system
logs. Who cares? (I do.)

Tomas Mraz
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                                              Turkish proverb

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