minimal install [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

Chris Murphy lists at
Mon Oct 15 20:02:12 UTC 2012

On Oct 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 03:24:09PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>>> Total download size: 94 M
>>>> Installed size: 401 M
>>> Of which one quarter is the kernel and the other quarter is glibc locale
>>> support, right?
>> Or more:
>> 122659574       kernel
>> 117821428       glibc-common
>> 35623360        linux-firmware
>> 14233540        coreutils
>> 13845828        glibc
> So, if a minimal image is a very high priority, this could be shrunk.
> Handwaving aside the difficulty for a moment, if the default kernel split
> out some of the drivers, maybe that could get down to 60MB. Leave out
> linux-firmware....  And glibc-common is almost _entirely_ locale and i18n.
> Because we still want to be _Fedora_, not a tiny-linux distro, let's leave
> coreutils and glibc as-is. Still, though, we've shaved off 200+ MB.
> With this, the three versions of "minimal" you give come down to about:
> @core + kernel:     300MB
> systemd [...] yum:  240MB     20% savings
> systemd + not yum:  195M      35% savings
> Chew away at the dependencies and at the size of some of the other packages
> (python 2to3, I'm looking at you), and we could get the middle option down
> below 200MB.

In my opinion, Minimal should include yum. Without yum, Minimal is suddenly not Fedora. It's like the brim is totally missing.

Chris Murphy

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