Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

Jaroslav Reznik jreznik at redhat.com
Wed Oct 31 15:05:17 UTC 2012


----- Original Message -----
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:50 AM, "J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson"
> <johannbg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah well I'm not so sure how you can actually expect that of the
> > feature
> > process given how utterly broken that is?
> >
> > For the first you are not obligated to participate in the feature
> > process
> > and even if you did what does the process categorize as an actual
> > feature?
> >
> > And I propose that you start lowering your expectations since there
> > is a
> > proposal floating with  FESCo where the main think is that they
> > want to
> > avoid voting on all features but just decide in details on the
> > bigger
> > scope/escalated ones to FESCo. The rest will be acked just by
> > announcing
> > them (and again - anyone can escalate it to FESCo)...
> 
> I have no idea where you're getting this information, but I haven't
> seen
> anyone suggest anything like that.  There is a desire to make the
> Feature
> process actually worthwhile, but it has nothing to do with blindly
> acking
> features.

It's one think that was an outcome of me talking to a few FESCo
members - so it's definitely not FESCo decision and I did not talk
to everyone. I should really start on the actual proposal (and I 
wanted to come with a real one, not just talking) but - the main 
idea was to free FESCo hands by not having to approve every single
feature and have a time to spent more on the system wide/escalated
ones. Also the announcement is a part of better visibility of 
proposed features as this seems does not work well (and yeah, there's
barrier as before the feature is approved by FESCo, it's just one
of a huge list of incompleted ones). 

Although this does not solve a problem that some really big changes
does not go through the process at all as it's not mandatory (or
we do not have a way how to actually enforce it).

Jaroslav

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