Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

[Eric Sandeen]

On 10/31/12 10:20 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 10/31/2012 02:57 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> A good place to see a summary of the broad community work is the annual Linux Storage and File System Workshop (LSF). You can google for the recent notes, usually well covered on LWN.net.
>>
>> The most general list and lowest traffic is: linux-fsdevel at vger.kernel.org
>>
>> MD team list is: linux-raid at vger.kernel.org
>>
>> The device mapper team list is: dm-devel at redhat.com
>>
>> Each local file system has its list:
>>
>> xfs at oss.sgi.com
>> linux-btrfs at vger.kernel.org
>> linux-nfs at vger.kernel.org
>> linux-ext4 at vger.kernel.org
>>
>> SCSI issues are:
>> linux-scsi at vger.kernel.org
>>
>> S-ATA issues are:
>> linux-ide at vger.kernel.org
> 
> These are all upstream mailing list none specific to the distribution
> so perhaps it's time for you guys within the Fedora distribution to
> unite under such list so other developers, user and alike can contact
> you and other interested parties that might be subscribed to that
> list with heads up for changes like the one that Anaconda made...

It might be useful to have a storage list for Fedora, but I'm on the
fence.

I'm on fedora-devel, fedora-kernel, and the anaconda lists already.

I'm in #fedora-devel, #fedora-kernel, and #anaconda on IRC too.

It's not clear to me that the root cause for low communication on this
change was "too few lists."  

Now that I've actively searched for it, I do find, deep in a thread
about "partitioning expectations for F18," a tester who was surprised
by the change back in August.  The surprise makes me think it probably
wasn't well communicated to anyone, originally.  For example, not
communicated to the fedora test lists, even though they existed.
(I'm not on _that_ list, so if I'm wrong, please forgive me).

I also found your "Does this mean we can ( finally ) disable lvm and
related services by default" comment in that thread, which gives me a
little better context for your passion on this topic.  ;)

-Eric

> JBG
>