Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

Jesse Keating jkeating at
Wed Oct 31 17:47:39 UTC 2012

On 10/31/2012 08:08 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> My concern at this point is exactly that we're "slipping a week at a
> time", rather than facing up to the*undeniable fact*  that anaconda is
> not close to being shippable.  If we don't have a workable contingency
> plan, I think the best thing to do would be to start slipping a month at
> a time.  And drop the beta-freeze restrictions, until we reach a point
> where anaconda actually is beta quality.  Other people have work they
> could usefully be getting done, except that they have to jump through
> these beta-freeze hoops --- which not incidentally are slowing down
> anaconda work too.  It's insane that we are wasting time debating
> whether anaconda bugs are release blockers or beta blockers or only NTH,
> when any honest evaluation would recognize that the whole thing hasn't
> reached alpha quality yet, and*all*  those bugs had better get fixed if
> we don't want F18 to permanently damage the reputation of Fedora.
> You can slip a month (or two) honestly, or you can fritter it away a
> week at a time, and ensure that as much of that time is unproductive as
> possible.  There is not a third option.  (Brooks'_Mythical_Man-Month_
> has useful things to say about this sort of scheduling trap --- anybody
> who hasn't read it should.)

Had I any say in the matter I would have strongly urged to not enter the 
beta freeze when we did.  I also think it's counter-productive to 
getting things in shape, and mostly just makes a lot of people hate 
Anaconda because it's keeping the freeze going.

Jesse Keating
Fedora -- FreedomĀ² is a feature!

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