Rawhide boot problems

Dennis Gilmore dennis at ausil.us
Sat Sep 8 03:05:10 UTC 2012


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On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 01:58:35 +0200
Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de> wrote:

> On Fri, 07.09.12 11:54, Jesse Keating (jkeating at j2solutions.net)
> wrote:
> 
> > On 09/07/2012 11:48 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > >Humm. I don't agree with this. As long as F18 is unreleased
> > >Rawhide will be basically untested and I also wonder what testing
> > >it at this point would bring, given that it right now is mostly
> > >F18 and very far from F19, so why not test the real F18 where we
> > >need all testing focussed anyway?
> > 
> > Fedora 18 is basically closed for new feature work, and instead the
> > focus needs to be on integration of the existing feature set and
> > bugfixes.  But as you state there is a large amount of time before
> > F18 releases, which means new feature work would have to stall out
> > for months.  Instead, new feature work can begin for F19 and get
> > ahead of the game.  That's why F18 and F19 are divergent.  That's
> > why we went from a single line of development to two.
> 
> I totally understand that. However this is not really how many people
> work. The assumption that everybody actually wants to get started asap
> with new feature development is simply wrong. I tend to focus on
> stabilization and bugfixes for quite some time before I switch back to
> feature development, and I actually believe most people should do it
> that way. And because I do it that way I want to keep F18 and F19 in
> sync for as long as I can. I want to decide on my own when we are
> ready and when I want to have F19 diverge from F18, and it shouldn't
> be implied that this is immediately done when pre-alpha is branched.

really what is so hard about commiting to master and building.

then doing "git checkout f18&& git merge master&& git push && fedpkg
build&& fedpkg update"

its really not much effort to keep them in sync at all if thats what
you choose. you dont delay things getting into rawhide and tested by
those running rawhide, its win all round.

Dennis
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