Expanding the list of "Hardened Packages"

[Reindl Harald]

Am 15.04.2013 18:48, schrieb Miloslav Trmač:
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net <mailto:h.reindl at thelounge.net>> wrote:
> 
>     which raises the question again:
> 
>     would it be not the better way to build the whole distribution hardened
>     by expierience that nearly anything is exploitable over the long and
>     performance comes after security
> 
> 
> The logical conclusion from this is to move to a language with automatic memory management.  The "top
> vulnerability" reports for programs written in C/C++ and most other languages so different that starting a new
> project that processes untrusted data in C/C++ is becoming indefensible.

no, that would mean thow away a lot of code and a hurry rewrite of whatelse
in whatever language doe snot make things secure

> We seem to be stuck with C as the lowest common denominator that can be used from any runtime; long-term we _need_
> to move away from that, or Linux will gain the reputation of least-secure OS around. 

not really, proven by securityfocus lists and changelogs of many
Fedora apckages which are not in C/C++ a fool will always implement
unsecure software and look at java-applets the last year!

> Now, what to move to?  I currently don't have see any language/runtime I could recommend, which is in itself rather
> frightening

and that is why existing technologies to make binaries more secure should be used


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