Idea: "{Gnome,KDE,Xfce,...} Minimal Desktop" groups

Sandro Mani manisandro at gmail.com
Mon Apr 29 15:23:53 UTC 2013


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh at redhat.com>wrote:

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> On 04/29/2013 10:55 AM, Rich Mattes wrote:
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> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Sandro Mani <manisandro at gmail.com
> > <mailto:manisandro at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > So, what about creating groups for the various desktop
> > environments which pull in basesystem + xorg + mesa drivers +
> > displaymanager + bare desktop shell?
> >
> >
> > Do the groups already provided in comps.xml[1] not work for this
> > task?
> >
> > Currently, one can use yum's groupinstall option to install the
> > gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, mate, and cinnamon desktops and desktop
> > environments.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > [1]
> > https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/comps.git/tree/comps-f19.xml.in
> >
> >
>
>
> If I understand the original request, his problem is that the
> groupinstall (and the comps listing for default entries) is still too
> heavyweight for him in some situations. He basically wants there to be
> a GNOME-minimal, KDE-minimal, etc. option in the installer to get JUST
> a working desktop shell and nothing else. No companion apps, etc.
>
>
Correct

I'm inclined to feel that this is a bit of a niche problem, frankly.
> I'd like to see some more justification. In most cases, the default
> set of packages are there because they're assumed to be the set of
> things that most people would want installed if they're using that
> desktop.
>

For a initial install of a full OS for production purposes, sure, but for
instance when installing another desktop side-by-side, I may not want yet
another texteditor, browser, chat client, etc. And when setting up and
updating my virtual machines, I really like to keep the system as slim as
possible. But I also want to empathize the benefit of having a set of
packages which define what is necessary for the desktop shell to start, the
same way one knows that the minimal set is close to what is necessary to
have a bootable system.


>
> That said, if someone wanted to do the exploration, come up with those
> minimal package sets and propose them for inclusion to comps.xml (with
> the blessing of the related desktop SIG), I have no problems with it
> myself.
>

If there is enough interest, I'm happy to do some exploration.


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