F20 release name election?

inode0 inode0 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 24 18:35:40 UTC 2013


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24 August 2013 10:55, inode0 <inode0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If "None" was an option, which I think is a terrible idea, the only
>> thing you could conclude from it winning is the we preferred to not
>> have a release name in this election given the names on the ballot. It
>> would mean absolutely nothing about whether we as a community prefer
>> to not have release names in general. I think we just recently tested
>> that theory with a vote of questionable meaning and it was concluded
>> that we did prefer to keep them.
>
> Uhm no. You can't test a question with a test of questionable meaning. The
> test wasn't between 2 choices.. it was  a test of 3 which basically allowed
> you to put the middle choice to either side of the equation and say that one
> side or the other has an absolute majority. Bringing up that vote as
> validation is like bringing up a cricket game to say which country is the
> better one... it is a false dichotomy which just keeps people flustered and
> doesn't "prove" anything.

Well, I did not offer it as proof. I stated the fact that those who
designed that election concluded from its results what they concluded.

The point I really wanted to convey there is that None winning the F21
release name election would not prove much of anything in general
either.

I'm just going to accept the Board's previous decision for now and not
re-open it for new consideration every 6 months.

> In the end, I understand the reason the board doesn't want to spend time on
> this molehill community breaker.
> Just state it as that and not that some vote proved people selected one way
> or another. Say instead:
>
> If you don't want to deal with names, just don't get in the emails or vote..
> because it isn't worth getting worked up over.

No point saying that because it won't happen. This was just an
announcement of the vote and look where it has gone. The only way to
stop people from getting worked up over this silly business is to stop
doing it and that is about the only thing I want to discuss at this
point. There isn't any point tweaking the process as those dead set
against it are not going to stop complaining about it at every
opportunity.

John


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