Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 01/03/2013 01:57 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:43 +0100:
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:13 +0100:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Fabian Deutsch <fabian.deutsch at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>>>>>> Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 00:03 -0800:
>>>>> …
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. If not, do we want to engage in some Messaging around the F18 release
>>>>>>> to emphasize that we know there are all these issues and we'll try to
>>>>>>> smooth things out for F19?
>>>>>>>
>>>>> …
>>>>>
>>>>>> So yes, these issues are serious, but IMHO rather a long-term problem we
>>>>>> should focus on after releasing F18.
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's point out the issues we are seeing with F18 amd get the release out of
>>>>> the door so we focus on fixing the stuff for F19. With all the drawbacks this
>>>>> solution has (e.g. unpleasant surprise for users with LUKS when they can't
>>>>> unlock their partition because of the changed layout ...)
>>>> There is no point in releasing if we know that it is broken period.
>>>> We delayed the release already for a very long period why should we
>>>> rush and ship a broken release now?
>>>> And those issues are rather serious and affect a lot of users.
>>> Well, happy F18 Final release in 2053! Because that's the year by which
>>> we might fix completely all bugs in Fedora because if there is a bug
>>> it's broken period ;)
> No, I didn't miss it. I just don't agree with it. For example the bug
> reported by me, which is on the list, too, is not serious at all. And
> many other bugs are not even regressions in Fedora 18. They're caused by
> problems that have been in Fedora for some time and our current final
> releases suffer from them, too. So when the release is almost out of the
> door we suddenly wake up and decide to solve long-term problems that we
> were fine with in F17,...

I assume you are not using encrypted partition

> especially in the situation when we're already
> 2 months behind the schedule.

Given that we are already that far behind the schedule few more months 
hardly matter or at least delay the release up to the point this issues 
are fixed.

> It just doesn't feel right to me, that's all.

What is not right here while the distribution has significantly 
increased in size the release cycle has not been extended to accommodate 
for that ( amongst other growth pain we suffer from )

Btw Fedora has not been the "first" for sometime now encase people have 
not noticed ( just compare Fedora and Arch for example )...

JBG