Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

[Thomas Sailer]

On 01/03/2013 04:01 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> I assume you are not using encrypted partition

I do.

> Given that we are already that far behind the schedule few more months
> hardly matter or at least delay the release up to the point this issues
> are fixed.

Yes it does. Many already upgraded to F18, and would like to see normal 
operation of F18 updates repositories.

> What is not right here while the distribution has significantly
> increased in size the release cycle has not been extended to accommodate
> for that ( amongst other growth pain we suffer from )

Numbers? Has critpath really increased that much?

On 01/03/2013 03:50 PM, drago01 wrote:
 > After the release does not help people that upgraded on release day
 > and found themselves unable to unlock there harddrive or log in.

Oh come on, fedup doesn't delete the old kernel, you can still boot with 
the F17 kernel and fix up the keyboard mess.

I've upgraded quite a few machines already, all with non-US 
locales/keymaps, and while slightly annoying, it was easy enough to fix 
up afterwards.

Just document what to do eg. on the fedup wiki page (you need to read 
this page anyway, I doubt anyone will be able to use fedup without 
consulting the instructions there, and there are already instructions on 
how to fix up grub after the upgrade).

I have _never_ been able to upgrade a single fedora release without some 
minor manual fixing afterwards, and I do that since fc1. I find that 
acceptable. Though I value hints on prominent places, such as FAQ wiki 
pages, etc. My impression is though that it's gotten a lot better in the 
recent couple of releases.

There are other annoying problems, like broken upgrade path for kdelibs, 
which should be solved magically by finally releasing fc18.

So +1 (or more) from me for
- releasing fc18 soon
- document workarounds for keyboard issues
- continue working on long-term solutions for keyboard layout setting, 
like the one Lennart outlined.

Tom