Fedora 18: WebApp and httpd 2.4 configuration

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 01/08/2013 03:48 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 03:06 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> So the remaining webapps that ship with the broken configuration that we
>>> are about to release into the hands our our enduser base and how they
>>> should be handled are not considered high-level technical decision?
>> What is the decision to be made? "Do we fix them"? Obviously yes.
> ("Obviously"?  Per which release blocker criterion?)
>
> The way I understand Jóhann, the topic to escalate was a proposed
> removal of currently unorphaned packages from the distribution, which
> sounds like a quite reasonable topic for FESCo.

Yes

> Such an escalation wouldn't fix F18, true.

This may come as an completely stupid question but given that we have 
not released yet why cant we remove those packages?

Surely we must have some kind of "omg we cant release with this 
component in final it's utterly broken or posses security risk!" fail 
safe mechanism in place to deal with this?

> In retrospect, the update to httpd 2.4 should probably have been a
> feature; that would make this problem visible by beta free

Remi had brought up the topic here on devel in due time and had compiled 
that list sometime in our beta slippery slope if I'm not mistaken.

>    FESCo
> already has "fixing features" on the agenda in a general sense, more
> thoughts on how to improve the process would definitely be welcome.


This is is not happening because of lack of communication or people did 
not know, it's happening because people did not react thus fixing 
unresponsive maintainers is more closer to the point or rather coming up 
with having a rock solid cleanup process.

JBG