Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

[John.Florian at dart.biz]

Stijn Hoop <stijn at sandcat.nl> wrote on 01/29/2013 14:20:50:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500
> John.Florian at dart.biz wrote:
> 
> > > From: Martin Sivak <msivak at redhat.com>
> > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be 
> > > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs 
> > > users or root password), but we can figure something out.
> > 
> > In my experience, root password is handled by the installer and
> > firstboot is not needed to configure users if puppet is being used to
> > configure them.  (Also there are many Fedora systems out there having
> > only root and the system accounts -- i.e., no real users.)  Having to
> > disable the firstbooot systemd unit file just to get to a root prompt
> > so that puppet can be installed would be a PITA.  The whole idea of
> > puppet is to avoid having to such things because it can automate them.
> 
> What he said -- forcing a root pw or creating users is going to be a
> PITA for us. Please add a way to disable it, preferably using kickstart.
> 
> --Stijn

I agree that it should be possible to easily disable firstboot in the 
kickstart, but I also believe that one should be able to easily sidestep 
firstboot after a regular install.  I don't have the time to create a 
kickstart for every conceivable use we have of Fedora here (although that 
would clearly be my preference because then puppet would be built in and 
start itself as "our firstboot and every boot").  Presently I give users 
the Fedora image and then direct them to a document that explains how to 
install and start puppet which does the rest of the setup for them.  It 
works very smoothly this way, but only if there are very few steps between 
finish the install and starting puppet.
--
John Florian
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