Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo Meeting (2013-01-30)

Wed Jan 30 21:09:11 UTC 2013

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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-01-30)
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Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:01:17 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-01-30/fesco.2013-01-30-18.01.log.html
.

Meeting summary
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* init process  (mmaslano, 18:01:39)

* #1001 F19 Feature: JRuby 1.7 -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/JRuby_1.7  (mmaslano,
   18:03:40)
   * AGREED: JRuby 1.7 is F19 feature if FPC acks it (+7,-0)  (mmaslano,
     18:05:53)

* #1002 F19 Feature: Ruby 2.0.0 -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ruby_2.0.0  (mmaslano,
   18:05:58)
   * AGREED: Ruby 2.0 is F19 feature if FPC acks it (+7,-0)  (mmaslano,
     18:07:45)

* #1004 Mass rebuild schedule  (mmaslano, 18:08:05)

* #1006 F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB
   (mmaslano, 18:12:27)

* #1025 En bloc features for January 30  (mmaslano, 18:20:00)
   * AGREED: All features from #1025 will be accepted as F19 features
     execpt FirstClassCloudImages and SharedSystemCertificates which
     shall be discussed separately (+9,0)  (mmaslano, 18:21:48)

* #1008 F19 Feature: First-Class Cloud Images -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirstClassCloudImages
   (mmaslano, 18:22:09)
   * AGREED: defer to next week, more discussion with other relengs
     needed (+6,-0)  (mmaslano, 18:39:08)

* #1019 F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SharedSystemCertificates
   (mmaslano, 18:39:47)
   * AGREED: Shared System Certificates are F19 feature (+8,-0, 1
     abstain)  (mmaslano, 18:51:03)

* #1006 F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB
   (mmaslano, 18:52:11)
   * LINK:

http://markmail.org/message/q5fk6lxlniq2p6gz?q=python#query:python+page:1+mid:oybas2zmjrpo2hap+state:results
     (mattdm, 18:54:48)
   * LINK:
     http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176635.html
     (abadger1999, 19:04:10)
   * AGREED: Replace MySQL with MariaDB is F19 feature (+7,-0)
     (mmaslano, 19:12:26)

* #1006 F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB
   (mmaslano, 19:13:46)
   * AGREED: Feature accepted as proposed (including obsoletion as a
     transition mechanism).  If new MySQL maintainers appear, feature
     owners are asked to make it possible to install the MySQL
     stand-alone server (only) (+7,-0)  (mmaslano, 19:15:29)

* #1007 F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Checkpoint_Restore  (mmaslano,
   19:16:08)
   * AGREED: Checkpoint/Restore is F19 feature (+9,-0)  (mmaslano,
     19:18:15)

* #1009 F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraUpgrade  (mmaslano,
   19:19:19)
   * ACTION: sgallagh to ask fedora-upgrade maintainers to consider
     renaming to avoid confusion  (nirik, 19:28:24)
   * ACTION: sgallagh will speak with Board about formalizing a request
     process for adding packages with fedora in their name  (mmaslano,
     19:28:24)
   * AGREED: Fedora Upgrade feature is rejected (+0,-7)  (mmaslano,
     19:31:44)

* #1022 F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names -

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdPredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
   (mmaslano, 19:33:42)
   * AGREED: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names are
     accepted as F19 feature (+7,-0)  (mmaslano, 19:46:30)
   * AGREED: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names - upgrades
     shouldn't change naming (+5,-0)  (mmaslano, 19:46:59)
   * AGREED: eno=>em tweak is required (+5, -1)  (mmaslano, 19:57:08)

* #1024 F19 Feature: MEMSTOMP -
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MEMSTOMP  (mmaslano, 19:57:17)
   * AGREED: MEMSTOMP is F19 feature (+7,-0)  (mmaslano, 19:58:43)

* #1004 Mass rebuild schedule  (mmaslano, 19:58:52)
   * AGREED: mass rebuild on 8th (+6,-0)  (mmaslano, 20:03:38)

* Next week's chair  (mmaslano, 20:05:50)
   * ACTION: nirik will chair next meeting  (mmaslano, 20:06:20)

* Open Floor  (mmaslano, 20:06:28)
   * ACTION: jreznik will propose schedule  (mmaslano, 20:06:38)
   * SB: pjones will to SWG and try to get clarification that expiration
     cannot be honored.  (mmaslano, 20:15:13)
   * SB: pjones will got to USWG and try to get clarification that
     expiration cannot be honored.  (mmaslano, 20:15:38)
   * AGREED: nodejs guideliens were approved contingent on a fesco
     multilib exemption, odejs wants to install and find modules in one
     path under /usr/lib rather than %{_libdir} which may be /usr/lib64
     (+6,-0)  (mmaslano, 20:21:18)
   * LINK:
     http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176796.html
     (abadger1999, 20:41:01)
   * AGREED: rubypick will be implemented as proposed by domain experts
     in JRuby feature (+5,-0)  (mmaslano, 20:53:07)

Meeting ended at 20:54:15 UTC.

Action Items
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* sgallagh to ask fedora-upgrade maintainers to consider renaming to
   avoid confusion
* sgallagh will speak with Board about formalizing a request process for
   adding packages with fedora in their name
* nirik will chair next meeting
* jreznik will propose schedule

Action Items, by person
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* jreznik
   * jreznik will propose schedule
* nirik
   * nirik will chair next meeting
* sgallagh
   * sgallagh to ask fedora-upgrade maintainers to consider renaming to
     avoid confusion
   * sgallagh will speak with Board about formalizing a request process
     for adding packages with fedora in their name
* **UNASSIGNED**
   * (none)

People Present (lines said)
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* mmaslano (150)
* pjones (138)
* sgallagh (114)
* nirik (113)
* mitr (102)
* abadger1999 (88)
* t8m (77)
* notting (63)
* jwb (39)
* mattdm (33)
* zodbot (24)
* jreznik (15)
* mjg59 (11)
* fenrus02 (9)
* Viking-Ice (9)
* jgreguske (8)
* drago01 (6)
* law (5)
* kalev (2)
* arthurbuliva (1)
* alorenzi (1)
* jmoskovc (1)
* pingou (1)

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