More unhelpful update descriptions

Johannes Lips johannes.lips at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 07:54:21 UTC 2013


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org> wrote:

> Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 09:44 +0200, Johannes Lips a écrit :
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:32 AM, drago01 <drago01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Dan Mashal
> >         <dan.mashal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pierre-Yves Luyten
> >         <py at luyten.fr> wrote:
> >         >> Not sure if it makes any sense but maybe could we have
> >         something like
> >         >> "freeze tag changes until desc is better".
> >         >>
> >         >> I propose this because testers will not _really_ want to -1
> >         karma, and
> >         >> as a maintainer it might be a bit hard, but with a good
> >         reminder like
> >         >> "not pushed to stable until desc is better" I would have
> >         made less
> >         >> mistakes
> >         >>
> >         >> yes not being reminded is not an excuse and such proposal
> >         would not save
> >         >> time, still I believe it could help more than hurt
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > There is already a perfect example of this.
> >         >
> >         >
> >
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11846/selinux-policy-3.12.1-57.fc19
> >
> >
> >         This is also a perfect example of useless "does not fix bug x"
> >         karma.
> >         If it is not *worse* then the previous package there is no
> >         reason to
> >         give it negative karma.
> > If it doesn't fix the bugs, the update should fix, it is appropriate
> > to give negative karma. Otherwise the bugs would be closed, when it
> > becomes stable, but won't be fixed.
>
> That's not what the guidelines say :
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Update_feedback_guidelines#Update_does_not_fix_a_bug_it_claims_to
>
Could be, but if the still broken bugs are going to be closed, when the
update becomes stable, doesn't really help, or? Given that this is enabled
in the update.


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