F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
Mon Jul 15 13:42:22 UTC 2013


Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 15:39, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
> On Mon, 15.07.13 15:34, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net)
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 13:23, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
>> > On Mon, 15.07.13 11:11, Miroslav Suchý (msuchy at redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > Hence, the choice between "journal by default + syslog optional" and
>> > "journal optional + syslog by default" does not exist. The choice
>> > between "journal by default + syslog by default" and "journal by
>> default
>> > + syslog optional" however does.
>> >
>> > But anyway, I'd still like to hear the technical reasoning for the
>> > opinion you expressed.
>>
>> IMHO it is way too early to switch of syslog, as systemd+syslog hosed
>> systems a few weeks ago, so the reliability of the systemd parts is
>> anything but proven so far. And I'm quite sure there are scores of nasty
>> surprises to find yet. For example, systemd still does not like being
>> updated by yum, and I'm pretty sure no one looked at the journal parts
>> when that happens.
>
> Any references to open bugs about this?

not really, since one of the things I've not figured out yet is how to get
reliable logs of late shutdown stages

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Nicolas Mailhot



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