F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

[Lennart Poettering]

On Wed, 17.07.13 01:53, Billy Crook (billycrook at gmail.com) wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Ding Yi Chen <dchen at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Don't tell me that you have not seen people writing multiple platform
> > scripts like this:
> >
> > case $OS)
> >   Windows* )
> >            some_windows_scripts
> > ......
> >   Linux* )
> >            grep /var/log/messages
> > .....
> >
> >
> > For them: What? Fedora 20 does not work while Fedora 19 does? Blame Fedora
> > then.
> >
> > And for fedora specific 3rd party scripts, now they need to add additional
> > check logic on their script.
> > Sometime that's just too much to ask.
> 
> 
> How about this idea.  Before "No Defualt Syslog", systemd needs to
> completely replicate all functionality provided by syslog, including
> /var/log/messages, by default.  Syslog emulation would be an option, and if
> people don't want it, they can still turn that option off.  But by default,
> everyone can still grep /var/log/messages.

Not. Gonna. Happen. 

The journal is not an implementation of syslog, we already have that in
rsyslog. Also, the feature is about ending the duplicate storage of the
log messages, so your suggestion is completely against what the feature
is about.

Lennart

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