F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 07/17/2013 12:50 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 02:41 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 07/17/2013 12:36 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>>> You guys aren't administrators who are dealing with
>>> these problems every day. You don't feel the pain
>>> you create for other people.
>> Well my job description for the last 10 years
>> and my pay check says otherwise so I dont know
>> what you are getting at...
> I'm saying that systemd developers are not full-time admins
> who troubleshoot and repair other people's Linux
> installations remotely.

Nope that's why they are developers...

>
> If they were, they would see why "just install rsyslogd"
> isn't a solution.
>

Well I as an administrator and speaking as such am not seeing how the 
journal or systemd for that matter is preventing that from still taking 
place either by using the tools that systemd have to offers or how it's 
preventing administrators from installing rsyslogd to continue to use it 
if they want to do so.

I as an administrator actually love many of the plethora of 
administrator features systemd has to offer and I as an administrator do 
not have any trouble installing rsyslog or syslog-ng and configure it to 
be used in various infrastructures for clients.

JBG