F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:41:24AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can
> > also install rsyslog.
> But, at the packaging level, I think it's been demonstrated that 'a program
> that expects this file' is not something we do a good job of consistently
> expressing. That should be fixed regardless of this feature proposal, but I
> think should definitely be a required component of accepting it.

I'm reading this to mean by adding package dependencies where missing,
right?

This is actually Kinda Hard, because /var/log/messages is really more an
artifact of our default rsyslog config than part of any package. If we
wanted to say that some syslog service always provides that file, we should
make it clear that changing it is actually not available for end-user
configuration and should never been changed. We've never done that.

So, adding "Requires: rsyslog" isn't _really_ sufficient. We could ship the
/var/log/messages configuration in a subpackage that goes into
/etc/rsyslog.d/ and ask packages which expect /var/log/messages to require
that.

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