EPEL (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:13:28PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/22/2013 02:52 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:28:52PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>What better time to move epel out of Fedora since is really not
> >>related to Fedora et all but is strictly for downstream distribution
> >>based upon us to use ( like RHEL and it's clones )
> >>
> >I'm not sure what you think needs to be "moved out of Fedora".  Governance
> >of EPEL is separate.  Packagers are allowed to be independent.  in your
> >previous post you mention the word "infrastructure".  If you're just talking
> >about the fact that epel shares the same koji, bodhi, git, etc with Fedora,
> >I'm not sure what harm those do to us right now and I can see a large amount
> >of benefit in terms of the manpower required to maintain those systems.
> 
> For Epel yes, for RHEL yes for Fedora no
> 
For Fedora, yes as well.  The Fedora Infrastructure team uses EPEL for their
boxes so they'd likely still be the ones who maintained a separate system.
If a separate system took more of their time then that would cut into their
time spent working on Fedora itself.

> >Could you please go into what is troubling you more?
> 
> Reluctant changes and cleanups to components and their spec files and
> our packing guidelines due to them being maintained in Epel and RHEL.
> 
Cleanups and changes sounds like a social problem rather than a technical
one.  I think you'll have this issue as long as the same maintainer is
concerned with both Fedora and EPEL/RHEL.  I mean you mention RHEL and RHEL
already lives in a separate system so it doesn't seem to have helped.

Packaging Guidelines themselves are written for Fedora.  We note where
EPEL/RHEL need something different where applicable.

-Toshio
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 198 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/attachments/20130722/87fe0055/attachment-0001.sig>