EPEL (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

Chris Murphy lists at colorremedies.com
Wed Jul 24 01:56:06 UTC 2013


On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <johannbg at gmail.com> wrote:

> The fact is we live in a rather thankless community and that is something we might be better at something that Picard would indeed want us to do.

Thank you for inviting me, with your foul attitude, to be condescending and to ask a question. I think your observations on this subject are useless, and also not amusing. Are you drunk? I ask because the last time you went off like this, you were, and ended up apologizing to the whole list for your rant. So maybe now is a good time to choose between more drinking and more posting, but not both? Just an observation.

> So I dont see how you can somehow make the assumption that all Red Hat employees have positive impact on the project.

Overwhelmingly, those who contribute have positive impact. If there is even a minority case, it seems hardly worth underscoring, especially in the manner and venue you've chosen.

> Many of them do an many of them care but not all of them some are just doing this as part of their job.

So what?

Earth to Jóhann, pretty much everyone involved in the project, in one form or another, contributes based on gaining something out of the project. They are doing this for their own self interested reasons while simultaneously giving back to the community. That's the point of participating. The specifics of what motivates often are interesting, but are not relevant to the quality, or validity of their participation.


Chris Murphy


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