Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

[Brendan Jones]

On 07/25/2013 10:36 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 17:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25.07.13 14:39, Jaroslav Reznik (jreznik at redhat.com) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Partially accepted Changes
>>>> * No Default Sendmail -
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail -
>>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185328.html
>>>>
>>>> Sendmail will be removed from @core. Removal of sendmail from @standard
>>>> didn't
>>>> pass. Note: About @standard group might be decided in next release of
>>>> Fedora.
>>>>
>>>> * No Default Syslog -
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
>>>> discussed on
>>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185329.html
>>>>
>>>> Remove rsyslog from @core, move to @standard pending revaluation in
>>>> future.
>>>
>>> Note that this is not the decision I was interested in. I will hence not
>>> work on the implemetation of either of these features. Unless Matthew
>>> takes them over alone I will will mark these feature pages as obsolete
>>> as they didn't get agreed on.
>>
>> Taking rsyslog out of @core is a one-line commit to comps which someone
>> could do in 30 seconds. It hardly needs 'working on'.
>
> Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-list fighting for those features, then it looks like a waste of time, that work has been done.
>
> Thankfully, it's been removed from the default Desktop spin.
It all becomes moot when a FESCO decision can be completely ignored. My 
own opinions aside (I have a sendmail requirement but would not force it 
on anyone).