Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

[drago01]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org> wrote:
> Le jeudi 25 juillet 2013 à 11:55 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit :
>> On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 17:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> > On Thu, 25.07.13 14:39, Jaroslav Reznik (jreznik at redhat.com) wrote:
>> >
>> > > Partially accepted Changes
>> > > * No Default Sendmail -
>> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail -
>> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185328.html
>> > >
>> > > Sendmail will be removed from @core. Removal of sendmail from @standard didn't
>> > > pass. Note: About @standard group might be decided in next release of Fedora.
>> > >
>> > > * No Default Syslog - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
>> > > discussed on https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185329.html
>> > >
>> > > Remove rsyslog from @core, move to @standard pending revaluation in future.
>> >
>> > Note that this is not the decision I was interested in. I will hence not
>> > work on the implemetation of either of these features. Unless Matthew
>> > takes them over alone I will will mark these feature pages as obsolete
>> > as they didn't get agreed on.
>>
>> Taking rsyslog out of @core is a one-line commit to comps which someone
>> could do in 30 seconds. It hardly needs 'working on'.
>
> Technically, fixing all packages with the assumption "there is a MTA
> already installed" and "file for log will be there" are also part of the
> feature that would have needed work.

They are broken regardless of this feature. They will break if a user
does "yum remove sendmail" or "yum remove rsyslog"

If they require something they should well require it ;)