Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2013-06-04 at 07:23 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Vít Ondruch <vondruch at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Dne 3.6.2013 19:04, Dan Mashal napsal(a):
> >
> >> What is a system wide change vs a self contained change vs a new change?
> >
> >
> > That is good question. I was always against distinguishing between these
> > two, but ....
> >
> > For example, if there will be new release of Ruby, I am going to propose
> > them as a "self contained" change, since it is less bureaucracy and let the
> > community decide, if the change is controversial and FESCo should decide.
> >
> > And I would suggest everybody to do the same.
> 
> So would python 2.7 -> 3 be a self contained change? Would glib
> deprecations be a self contained change?
> 
> Personally, whether it "should" or "shouldn't" harm some things I
> don't really see a problem with doing it the old way, so even no one
> really cares that much about python 3 it's still listed as a new
> feature on one page in addition to new or old spins.
> 
> Another example is MATE 1.4 -> 1.6, sure this is a self contained
> change but it's still considered a new feature. Is Gnome 3.6 -> 3.8 a
> feature? Sure it is.
> 
> Is Anaconda a "self contained" feature? Definitely not. Is there
> really much meaning to putting Anaconda listed as a feature? Not
> really IMHO. There's a lot of grey area here and I just see this kind
> of complicating things more. With respect to all "features" mentioned.

The point of differentiating between them is not about how much
publicity they get / how 'important' they are considered to be, but
about how much review and co-ordination they require.

One of the big drawbacks that was widely noted with the old Feature
process was that a 'feature' which had about zero chance of breaking
anything outside of itself - say, a major new release of Eclipse, or
something - had to go through all the same 'project review' phases as a
'feature' that could break the world - like the new anaconda in F18, or
systemd, or deprecating Python 2 or something.
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