icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

Bill Nottingham notting at
Mon Jun 17 15:03:26 UTC 2013

Josh Bressers (bressers at said: 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Florian Weimer (fweimer at said:
> > > I noticed that icedtea-web (the Java browser plugin implementation
> > > for OpenJDK) is installed and enabled by default (as part of the
> > > "GNOME Desktop" set).  This is a bit surprising, considering that
> > > the rest of the world tries to move away from Java browser plugin
> > > technology (and even browser plugin technology in general).
> > > 
> > > We cannot really remove installed packages after the release, so I'm
> > > wondering if we still can fix this prior to release.
> > 
> > We could, I suppose. What do people think? (It's just one line in comps.)
> > 
> > Nearly all live images drop it for space reasons.
> > 
> I think given all the trouble this plugin has caused recently, it wouldn't
> be wise to install it for everyone. If you need it, great, install it, but
> if a users doesn't need it, it's really just creating a level of risk we
> probably don't want.
> Fedora currently has a reputation for being pretty secure, I think this
> could damage that reputation.

The one issue I can see with removing it is that the plugin finder you
then get in Firefox if you hit a Java site doesn't work to actually get you
the Fedora version.


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