Minimal install diff from F16 to F19 (TC6)

Eric Smith brouhaha at
Thu Jun 20 18:13:54 UTC 2013

Does NM in F19 support statically assigning multiple subnets to the
same physical interface, WITHOUT using VLANs?  I often need that on
server machines, and wasn't able to figure out any way to do it with
NM on F17, but I haven't yet tried it on F19.

With the old-style network configuration, it was easy to manually
configure this by creating /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/eth3:<n>
config files.  Also, it was very easy to automate creating and
removing them, while I have yet to be successful scripting changes to
NM configurations, though probably I'm overlooking some simple way of
doing that.

Previously it has seemed that the old-style network configuration was
more robust than NM, though not as user-friendly. However, I know that
NM has been getting more robust over time, so that may no longer be


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh at> wrote:
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> On 06/20/2013 11:08 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 20.06.2013 17:01, schrieb Matthew Miller:
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:52:54AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>>> And why is NetworkManager and firewalld in the minimal
>>>> install?
>>> We are on track to replace the "legacy" network and firewall init
>>> scripts with these. It's a slow track, but that's the direction
>> *do not* remove iptables.service for a lot od reason explained
>> often enough as well as NM is utterly useless on servers and
>> workstations with several *static* configured NIC's
> Mind if I ask why you think this way about NetworkManager? The NM
> currently shipping in Fedora 19 has full support for managing static
> NICs, as well as bonding, bridging and VLAN support for enterprise
> use-cases.
> NetworkManager has historically been perceived as a desktop/laptop
> tool but in its current incarnation it should be usable for all but
> the most esoteric enterprise workloads.
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